Demon Possession and Pornography

The Story of Ted Bundy

Demon Posession and Pornography
The Story of Ted Bundy

Is Pornography Harmless ?

Porn and Sex Offenders
is There a Link ?

“As a clinical psychologist, I have treated, 
over many years…sex offenders. 
Pornography has been a major contributor 
in the acquisition of their deviation.”
–Dr. Victor B. Cline;
Psychologist at the University of Utah; 
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.
From his Booklet;
“Pornography’s Effects on Adults and Children”
“I’ve lived in prison for a long time now, 
and I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated 
to commit violence. Without exception, every one 
of them was deeply involved in pornography 
– deeply consumed by the addiction.”
-Ted Bundy’s Final Interview
Fatal Addiction to Pornography
by Dr. James Dobson
“The F.B.I.’s own study on serial homicide shows 
that the most common interest among serial killers 
is pornography. It’s true.”
-Ted Bundy’s Final Interview
Fatal Addiction to Pornography
by Dr. James Dobson
“If one asks if porn is responsible or causes any sex 
crimes, the answer is unequivocally, “YES,” but that is 
only the tip of the iceberg.” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline;
Psychologist at the University of Utah; 
Family marital counseling and sexual addiction.
From his Booklet;
“Pornography’s Effects on Adults and Children”
“Investigators have reported that rapists 
and child molesters use pornography both immediately
prior to their crimes and during the actual assault.”
-Silber, M.H., and Pines, A.M. 
“Pornography and Sexual Abuse of Women,” 
Vol. 10, pp. 857-868, 1984.
I’m sure that opinions vary and that not all who enjoy
porno – will wind up as rapists…. But I just thought
this information to be interesting and worth sharing,
since it even mentions the possible long term effects
on relationships, on families, and even some marriages.  
Addiction to Porn
“The first change that happened was an addiction-effect.
The porn-consumers got hooked. Once involved in pornographic
materials, they kept coming back for more and still more.
The material seemed to provide a very powerful sexual stimulant
or aphrodisiac effect, followed by sexual release,
most often through masturbation.” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“Once addicted, they could not throw off their dependence
on the material by themselves, despite many negative
consequences such as divorce, loss of family, and problems
with the law …” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“Many people have testified to their extreme addiction
to pornography … in terms of having their whole life 
consumed by it … Like an alcoholic or a drug addict, 
they are looking for ‘that big kick,’ … When the ‘wave’ 
hits them, nothing can stand in the way of getting 
what they want, including sex from a prostitute or 
raping a woman.” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“The second phase was an escalation-effect. 
With the passage of time, the addicted person required 
rougher, more explicit, more deviant, and ‘kinky’ 
kinds of sexual material to get their ‘highs’ 
and ‘sexual turn-ons.’ … Being married or in a 
relationship with a willing sexual partner did not 
solve their problem. Their addiction and escalation 
were mainly due to the powerful sexual imagery in their 
minds, implanted there by the exposure to pornography. 
They often prefer this sexual imagery, accompanied by 
masturbation, to sexual intercourse itself. 
This nearly always diminished their capacity to love 
and express affection … Their sex drive is diverted 
to a degree away from their spouse-and the spouse 
easily senses this, and often feels very lonely 
and rejected.”
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“The fourth phase that occurs is an increasing 
tendency to act out sexually the behaviors viewed 
in the pornography, including compulsive promiscuity, 
exhibitionism, group sex, voyeurism, frequenting massage 
parlors, having sex with minor children, rape, and 
inflicting pain on themselves or a partner during sex.”
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“In my clinical experience, however, the major 
consequence of being addicted to pornography 
is not the probability or possibility of committing 
a serious sex crime (though this can and does occur), 
but rather the disturbance of the fragile bonds 
of intimate family and marital relationships. 
This is where the most grievous pain, damage, 
and sorrow occur. There is repeatedly an interference 
with or even destruction of healthy love and sexual 
relationships with long-term bonded partners. 
If one asks if porn is responsible or causes any 
sex crimes, the answer is unequivocally, “Yes,” 
but that is only the tip of the iceberg.” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
Intelligence Linked to Porn Addiction ?

“I also found … that many of my most intelligent
male patients appeared to be most vulnerable-
perhaps because they had a greater capacity to fantasize.” 
-Dr. Victor B. Cline is a psychologist 
at the University of Utah
“Believe it or not, the higher their education, 
the more prone these people are to becoming addicted 
to this (pornographic) material.”
–Sgt. Navarro, 
investigator of the porno industry 
Los Angeles Police Department

Pornography and Demonic Influence ?

Many people have spoke of experiencing trouble with the
spirit world – after repeated and long term involvement with
sexual immorality, pornography and sexual perversions.

Some have even confessed to doing things that they normally
would not have done – while under the influence of “demons”
that drove them to do terrible things after long sessions with 
pornographic materials.

Are they just making excuses, or are the evil spirits attracted
to all forms of excessive, degrading sin, especially of the Porno
type ?

“In particular, demons are attracted to sins of long duration 
such as sexual immorality.”
-Healing Waters; Signs and Symptoms
Doorways to Demons

“It would seem reasonable to argue that 
demon possession may be an aetiological
factor in some cases of mental illness.”
-Demon Posession and Mental Illness
Professor Chris Cook 
Kent Institute of Medicine and Health Science 
University of Kent at Canterbury

Immorality Attracts Demons
How do we know ?
Remember –
“And you know the story of the angels 
who didn’t stick to their post, 
abandoning it for other, darker missions.”
(Jude 1:6)(MSG)-BibleGateway
“God didn’t let the rebel angels off the hook, 
but jailed them….till Judgment Day.”
(2Peter 2:4)(MSG)-BibleGateway
“In particular, demons are attracted to sins of long duration 
such as sexual immorality.”
-Healing Waters; Signs and Symptoms
Doorways to Demons

Remember, that according to the Bible, Satan sinned
against God – in order to obtain power and glory for
himself. That is not true of the rest of heaven’s
spirit creatures that rebelled against God.

And why did the rest of the demons rebel against God ?
In order to commit sexual immorality.
The demons were able to experience sexual immorality
by materializing human bodies. Since the flood, they
can no longer materialize – so it is very possible that
they are still getting their thrills, by inhabiting
humans today – which some call “demon possession”.
“And I remind you of the angels 
who did not stay within the limits 
of authority that God gave them 
but left the place where they belonged.” 
(Jude 1:6)(NLT)-BibleGateway
“In those days were the giants (nephilim) on the earth, 
…when the sons of God (angels) had come in to the 
daughters of men, and they had borne [children] to them; 
…And Jehovah saw that the wickedness of Man 
was great on the earth, and every imagination of 
the thoughts of his heart only evil continually.” 
(Genesis 6:4-8)(ASV)-BibleGateway
“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days. 
That was when the sons of God (spirit creatures)
went to the daughters of men and had children by them.”
(Genesis 6:4)(DARBY)-BibleGateway
“the Nephillim are considered by many as…the 
unnatural offspring of the daughters of mortal men 
in cohabitation with” the sons of god” (angels). 
This utterly unnatural union, violating God’s created 
order of being, was such a shocking abnormality as to 
necessitate the worldwide judgment of the flood.” 
-Unger’s Bible Dictionary
(pg. 788)- under “Nephilim”
“More and more people were born, 
until finally they spread all over the earth. 
Some of their daughters were so beautiful 
that supernatural beings came down and married
the ones they wanted. The children of the 
supernatural beings who had married these women 
became famous heroes and warriors. They were called
Nephilim and lived on the earth at that time…” 
(Genesis 6:1,2,4)(CEV)-BibleGateway
Some examples Today.
Ted Bundy – a renowned rapist and murderer – felt like he was
taken over – or posessed with some type of lust that he could not
control – after many years of addiction to Pornography. He never
mentioned spirits or demons, yet he described them quite aptly.
When asked by Dr. James Dobson – as to what it was 
like to rape and murder all of his victims, Ted
Bundy described it this way –
“That’s one way to describe it – a compulsion,
being possessed by something so awful and alien. 
It was like coming out of some horrible trance or dream. 
To wake up in the morning and realize what I had done 
…absolutely horrified me. There is no way to describe 
the brutal urge to do that, and once it has been 
satisfied, or spent, and that energy level recedes, 
I became myself again. Basically, I was a normal person.
Pornography snatched me out of my home 20 or 30 years ago.”
-Ted Bundy’s Final Interview
Fatal Addiction to Pornography
by Dr. James Dobson
“violence and murder go hand in hand 
with demons of homosexuality.” 
–Dr. Rebecca Brown, 
“Becoming A Vessel of Honor 
In The Master’s Service”. p. 226
“neuroscience has NOT yet been able to explain 
all of the characteristics common to purported 
cases of demonic possession.”
-Harper’s Encyclopedia of Mystical 
and Paranormal Experience, pp. 190-192 
Guiley, Rosemary Ellen
New York: HarperCollins, 1991
“What is currently known about science 
cannot fully explain every situation reported 
to be a case of demonic possession….
one cannot dismiss the possibility that demonic 
possession is a real and true phenomenon.”
-Demonic Possession
Melissa A. Bromwell
“It would seem reasonable to argue that 
demon possession may be an aetiological
factor in some cases of mental illness.”
-Demon Posession and Mental Illness
Professor Chris Cook 
Kent Institute of Medicine and Health Science 
University of Kent at Canterbury 
Ted Bundy’s Final Interview
His Fatal Addiction to Pornography
“Ted Bundy, an infamous serial killer, 
granted an interview to psychologist James Dobson 
just before he was executed on January 24, 1989. 
In that interview, he described the agony of his 
addiction to pornography. Bundy goes back to his roots, 
explaining the development of his compulsive behavior. 
He reveals his addiction to hard-core pornography 
and how it fueled the terrible crimes he committed.
When Ted Bundy was thirteen years old, he discovered 
“dirty magazines” in a dump near his home. He was 
instantly captivated by them. In time, Bundy became 
more and more addicted to violent images in magazines 
and videos. He got his kicks from seeing women being 
tortured and murdered. When he tired of that, there was
only one place his addiction could go – from fantasy to
Bundy, a good-looking, intelligent law student, 
learned to lure women into his car by various forms 
of deception. He would put a cast on his arm or leg, 
then walk across a university campus carrying several 
books. When he saw an interesting coed standing or 
walking alone, he’d “accidentally” drop the books near
her. The girl would help him gather them and take them 
to his car. Then he would entice her or push her into 
the vehicle where she was taken captive. After he had 
molested the girl and the rage of passion had passed, 
she would be killed and Bundy would dump her body in a 
region where it would not be found for months. This went
on for years.
By the time he was apprehended, Bundy had killed at least
twenty-eight young women and girls in acts too horrible 
to contemplate. He was finally convicted and sentenced 
to death for killing a twelve-year-old girl and dumping
her body in a pigsty. After more than ten years of appeals
and legal maneuvering, a judge gave the order for Bundy’s 
execution. That week, he asked an attorney to call me 
and request that I come to Florida State Prison for 
a final interview.
When I arrived, I discovered a circus-like atmosphere 
outside the prison. Teenagers carried signs saying 
“Burn, Bundy, Burn,” and “You’re Dead, Ted.” 
Also in the crowd were more than 300 reporters who had 
come to get a story on the killer’s last hours, 
but Bundy wouldn’t talk to them. He had something 
important to say, and he believed the media couldn’t be
trusted to report it accurately. Therefore, I was invited
to bring a camera crew to record his last comments 
from death.
I’ll never forget that experience. I went through seven 
steel doors and metal detectors so sensitive that my tie
tack and the nails in my shoes were enough to set off 
an alarm. Finally, I reached an inner chamber where Bundy 
and I were to meet. He was brought in, strip-searched, 
and then surrounded by six prison guards while he talked 
to me. Midway through our conversation, the lights 
suddenly went dim.
Ted said, “Just wait a moment, 
and they will come back on.”
I didn’t realize until later what had happened. 
The prisoner knew that his executioners were testing 
the electric chair that would take his life the next 
Ted Bundy wanted to tell the world about pornography
What was it that Ted Bundy was so anxious to say? 
He felt he owed it to society to warn of the dangers 
of hard-core pornography and to explain how it had 
led him to murder so many innocent women and girls.
With tears in his eyes, he described the monster that 
took possession of him when he had been drinking. 
His craze to kill was ALWAYS inflamed by violent 
Quoted below is an edited transcript of the conversation 
that occurred just seventeen hours before Ted was led to 
the electric chair.
James C. Dobson: It is about 2:30 in the afternoon. 
You are scheduled to be executed tomorrow morning at 7:00,
if you don’t receive another stay. What is going through
your mind? What thoughts have you had in these last 
few days?
Ted: I won’t kid you to say it is something I feel
or I’m in control of or have come to terms with. 
It’s a moment-by-moment thing. Sometimes I feel very 
tranquil and other times I don’t feel tranquil at all. 
What’s going through my mind right now is to use the 
minutes and hours I have left as fruitfully as possible.
It helps to live in the moment, in the essence that we 
use it productively. Right now I’m feeling calm, 
in large part because I’m here with you.
JCD: For the record, you are guilty of killing 
many women and girls.
Ted: Yes, that’s true.
JCD: How did it happen? Take me back. What are the 
antecedents of the behavior that we’ve seen? You were 
raised in what you consider to be a healthy home. 
You were not physically, sexually or emotionally abused.
Ted: No. And that’s part of the tragedy of this whole 
situation. I grew up in a wonderful home with two 
dedicated and loving parents, as one of 5 brothers and 
sisters. We, as children, were the focus of my parent’s
lives. We regularly attended church. My parents did not 
drink or smoke or gamble. There was no physical abuse or 
fighting in the home. I’m not saying it was “Leave it to 
Beaver”, but it was a fine, solid Christian home.
Ted: I hope no one will try to take the easy way out of this 
and accuse my family of contributing to this. 
I know, and I’m trying to tell you as honestly as 
I know how, what happened.
As a young boy of 12 or 13, I encountered, outside the 
home, in the local grocery and drug stores, softcore
pornography. Young boys explore the sideways and byways 
of their neighborhoods, and in our neighborhood, people
would dump the garbage. From time to time, we would come
across books of a harder nature – more graphic. 
This also included detective magazines, etc., and I want
to emphasize this. The most damaging kind of pornography 
– and I’m talking from hard, real, personal experience –
is that that involves violence and sexual violence. 
The wedding of those two forces – as I know only too well 
– brings about behavior that is too terrible to describe.
JCD: Walk me through that. What was going on in your mind 
at that time?
Ted: Before we go any further, it is important to me 
that people believe what I’m saying. I’m not blaming 
pornography. I’m not saying it caused me to go out and 
do certain things. I take full responsibility for all 
the things that I’ve done. That’s not the question here.
The issue is how this kind of literature contributed 
and helped mold and shape the kinds of violent behavior.
JCD: It fueled your fantasies ?
Ted: In the beginning, it fuels this kind of thought
process. Then, at a certain time, it is instrumental 
in crystallizing it, making it into something that is 
almost a separate entity inside.
JCD: You had gone about as far as you could go in your 
own fantasy life, with printed material, photos, videos,
etc., and then there was the urge to take that step over
to a physical event.
Ted: I was a normal person. I had good friends. 
I led a normal life, except for this one, 
small but very potent and destructive segment 
that I kept very secret and close to myself.
Ted: Once you become addicted to it, and I look at this 
as a kind of addiction, you look for more potent, 
more explicit, more graphic kinds of material. 
Like an addiction, you keep craving something which is 
harder and gives you a greater sense of excitement, 
until you reach the point where the pornography only goes
so far – that jumping off point where you begin to think
maybe actually doing it will give you that which is just 
beyond reading about it and looking at it.
JCD: How long did you stay at that point before you 
actually assaulted someone?
Ted: A couple of years. I was dealing with very strong 
inhibitions against criminal and violent behavior. 
That had been conditioned and bred into me from my 
neighborhood, environment, church, and schools.
Ted: I knew it was wrong to think about it, and certainly, 
to do it was wrong. I was on the edge, and the last
vestiges of restraint were being tested constantly, 
and assailed through the kind of fantasy life that was 
fueled, largely, by pornography.
JCD: Do you remember what pushed you over that edge?
Do you remember the decision to “go for it”? 
Do you remember where you decided to throw caution 
to the wind?
Ted: It’s a very difficult thing to describe – 
the sensation of reaching that point where I knew 
I couldn’t control it anymore. The barriers I had 
learned as a child were not enough to hold me back 
from seeking out and harming somebody.
JCD: Would it be accurate to call that a sexual frenzy?
Ted: That’s one way to describe it – a compulsion, 
a building up of this destructive energy. Another fact 
I haven’t mentioned is the use of alcohol. 
In conjunction with my exposure to pornography, 
alcohol reduced my inhibitions and pornography eroded 
them further.
JCD: After you committed your first murder, 
what was the emotional effect? What happened in the days 
after that?
Ted: Even all these years later, it is difficult to talk 
about. Reliving it through talking about it is difficult 
to say the least, but I want you to understand what 
happened. It was like coming out of some horrible trance 
or dream. I can only liken it to (and I don’t want to 
overdramatize it) being possessed by something so awful 
and alien, and the next morning waking up and remembering 
what happened and realizing that in the eyes of the law, 
and certainly in the eyes of God, you’re responsible. 
To wake up in the morning and realize what I had done 
with a clear mind, with all my essential moral and 
ethical feelings intact, absolutely horrified me.
JCD: You hadn’t known you were capable of that before?
Ted: There is no way to describe the brutal urge to do 
that, and once it has been satisfied, or spent, and that 
energy level recedes, I became myself again. Basically, 
I was a normal person.
Ted: There are those loose in their towns and communities,
like me, whose dangerous impulses are being fueled, 
day in and day out, by violence in the media in its
various forms – particularly sexualized violence.
Ted: I wasn’t some guy hanging out in bars, or a bum. 
I wasn’t a pervert in the sense that people look at 
somebody and say, “I know there’s something wrong with
him.” I was a normal person. I had good friends. 
I led a normal life, except for this one, small but very
potent and destructive segment that I kept very secret 
and close to myself.
Ted: Those of us who have been so influenced by 
violence in the media, particularly pornographic violence, 
are not some kind of inherent monsters. 
We are your sons and husbands. We grew up in 
regular families. Pornography can reach in and snatch a
kid out of any house today. It snatched me out of my home
20 or 30 years ago. As diligent as my parents were, 
and they were diligent in protecting their children, 
and as good a Christian home as we had, there is no 
protection against the kinds of influences that are 
loose in a society that tolerates….
JCD: Outside these walls, there are several hundred 
reporters that wanted to talk to you, and you asked me 
to come because you had something you wanted to say. 
You feel that hardcore pornography, and the door to it,
softcore pornography, is doing untold damage to other people 
and causing other women to be abused and killed 
the way you did.
Ted: I’m no social scientist, and I don’t pretend to 
believe what John Q. Citizen thinks about this,
but I’ve lived in prison for a long time now, 
and I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated to commit 
violence. Without exception, every one of them was 
deeply involved in pornography – deeply consumed by the 
addiction. The F.B.I.’s own study on serial homicide 
shows that the most common interest among serial killers
is pornographers. It’s true.
JCD: What would your life have been like without 
that influence?
Ted: I know it would have been far better, 
not just for me, but for a lot of other people 
– victims and families. There’s no question that it 
would have been a better life. I’m absolutely certain 
it would not have involved this kind of violence.
JCD: If I were able to ask the kind of questions 
that are being asked, one would be, “Are you thinking 
about all those victims and their families that are so 
wounded? Years later, their lives aren’t normal. 
They will never be normal. Is there remorse?”
Ted: I know people will accuse me of being self-serving, 
but through God’s help, I have been able to come to the 
point, much too late, where I can feel the hurt and the 
pain I am responsible for. Yes. Absolutely! During the 
past few days, myself and a number of investigators have
been talking about unsolved cases – murders I was involved
in. It’s hard to talk about all these years later, 
because it revives all the terrible feelings and thoughts
that I have steadfastly and diligently dealt with – 
I think successfully. It has been reopened and I have 
felt the pain and the horror of that.
Ted: I hope that those who I have caused so much grief, 
even if they don’t believe my expression of sorrow, 
will believe what I’m saying now; there are those loose 
in their towns and communities, like me, whose dangerous
impulses are being fueled, day in and day out, by violence
in the media in its various forms – particularly 
sexualized violence. What scares me is when I see what’s 
on cable T.V. Some of the violence in the movies that 
come into homes today is stuff they wouldn’t show in 
X-rated adult theatres 30 years ago.
JCD: The slasher movies?
Ted: That is the most graphic violence on screen, 
especially when children are unattended or unaware that 
they could be a Ted Bundy; that they could have a 
predisposition to that kind of behavior.
JCD: One of the final murders you committed was 12-year-
old Kimberly Leach. I think the public outcry is greater
there because an innocent child was taken from a 
playground. What did you feel after that? 
Were they the normal emotions after that?
Ted: I can’t really talk about that right now. 
It’s too painful. I would like to be able to convey 
to you what that experience is like, but I won’t be able 
to talk about that. I can’t begin to understand the pain
that the parents of these children and young women that 
I have harmed feel. And I can’t restore much to them, 
if anything. I won’t pretend to, and I don’t even expect 
them to forgive me. I’m not asking for it. That kind of
forgiveness is of God; if they have it, they have it, 
and if they don’t, maybe they’ll find it someday.
JCD: Do you deserve the punishment the state has 
inflicted upon you?
Ted: That’s a very good question. I don’t want to die; 
I won’t kid you. I deserve, certainly, the most extreme 
punishment society has. And I think society deserves to 
be protected from me and from others like me. That’s for
sure. What I hope will come of our discussion is that 
I think society deserves to be protected from itself. 
As we have been talking, there are forces at loose in 
this country, especially this kind of violent pornography, 
where, on one hand, well-meaning people will condemn the
behavior of a Ted Bundy while they’re walking past a
magazine rack full of the very kinds of things that send 
young kids down the road to being Ted Bundys. That’s the
Ted: I’m talking about going beyond retribution, 
which is what people want with me. There is no way 
in the world that killing me is going to restore those 
beautiful children to their parents and correct and 
soothe the pain. But there are lots of other kids playing
in streets around the country today who are going to be 
dead tomorrow, and the next day, because other young 
people are reading and seeing the kinds of things that 
are available in the media today.
Ted Bundy was executed at 7:15 am the day after this 
conversation was recorded.”
–Source: Focus on the Family
Dr. Dobson’s interview with Ted Bundy 
Life on the Edge, Dr. James Dobson (1995)
Word Publishing, Nashville, Tennessee

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